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Veins1: Welcome to the Veins1 vascular moderated chat.
This is the second of four moderated chats on Veins1 in October. Each will be
held Tuesday at 9:00 pm eastern standard time. We welcome your questions and
your input. uc99: Are there treatments for very blue, very
noticeable veins near the skin's surface? They don't bulge and aren't painful,
so they're not varicose veins, just unsightly. daisy21: Is there a connection between oral
contraceptives and spider veins? I know a few girls who have had spider veins
develop after being on birth control for a year or so. Is that just
coincidence? red rider: What is a doppler test? And why is it important?
My Mother had to get one of these because of concerns about veins in her legs. hot babe: I am a flight attendant and spend a significant
amount of time in pressurized cabins in the air. What can I do to minimize the
occurrence of varicose veins? ses330: My mother has to have a hip replacement on her right
side and has varicose veins on her left side. Is there a certain order in which
she should have these procedures scheduled? kellykel: I'm a 25 year-old healthy, active female. Varicose
veins do not run in my family. Am I at risk for varicose veins? Is there a way
for me to prevent getting them? maybaby: I experience pain and tingling in my fingers and
toes after being exposed to the cold. Sometimes this can last up to 3 or 4 days
- is that Raynaud's disease? Jonathan Smith: After strenuous exercise, I like to use the
Sauna and/or Hot Tub at my local YMCA. Will this aggravate or exaggerate the
varicose veins in my lower leg? Susie Q: Is it possible to get varicose veins in the wrist?
I have a pulsing bulge in my wrist that at times is itchy. Is this possible? I
thought varicose veins only occurred in the legs. Veins1: Is there a correlation between heart problems and
varicose veins? red rider: One other question on the spider veins-- a friend
who unfortunately drinks a lot and he has red spider veins on his nose. I like
to drink a glass now and then, but with the veins problems in my family, I want
to know if I am risky getting a red nose covered with little veins, too. JohnJ1956: I read online that perhaps varicose veins can
lead to blood clots. Is this true? Is there anything I can do to avoid this
aside from operation? Veins1: What should people do if their jobs require long
periods of standing? Susie Q: How destructive is a collapsed vein? I've heard of
that occurring when people give blood and am wondering how bad that is? How
does that happen and does it cause permanent damage? Dr. Spitz: Rarely giving blood or getting an
IV can cause irritation of the vein wall. This can cause the vein to be
blocked...usually there are hundreds of other veins to take up the slack. dcs95: My left leg has varicose veins in the calf. I have a
tingling, twitching feeling in the leg at times. I have been told the problem
is in the main vein and the injections would not help. What are the risks of
leaving them alone, and what are possible solutions for repair? Brian Johnson: I've been reading a lot online about TriVexÔ. I also
saw it featured back in July on the Today Show. Can you explain the benefits of
TriVexÔ vs. other
varicose vein removal procedures? Dr. Spitz: TriVexÔ
visualizes the veins and accurately removes only the "bad" veins from
the leg. Easy recovery, only 3-4 tiny incisions and you are walking that day.
Other procedures are blind, tedious and require long operative times with many
incisions…as many as 30-40 was very common. uc99: Are there any treatments for venous leg ulcers other
than compression wraps? red rider: Thanks, Doctor. Can you answer my question on my
Mom's legs, too? About why they are doing Doppler Test on her legs and is she
at risk of losing them? maybaby: Can spider veins in diabetics be removed? boosted302: What about...I think it was called injection
therapy? Is this procedure as safe as the others? daisy21: Is there any way to make my veins bigger or more
accessible? Nurses always have a hard time gaining access to my veins when it's
time for them to do bloodwork. Is there anything I can do about that? dcs95: Does sitting for long periods of time have a negative
effect on the veins? hot babe: Is there post-surgical follow-up with TriVexÔ? How long
is the healing process to recover? Veins1: There are a few questions on what constitutes
cosmetic surgery? Dr. Spitz: Cosmetic would be a face lift,
eyebrows or breast augmentation that only affects the look of something.
Varicose veins are a medical condition and treated accordingly...but the
cosmetic result of a vein operation is of course important and always
considered. Veins1: What can be done regarding discoloration of the leg
after varicose vein surgery? Is time the main factor? What else can be done to
regain normal coloration? Victoria M: Hi, I have more of a cosmetic problem. I have
very noticeable blue veins throughout my body, especially in my chest, abdomen
and legs. Is there any procedure to help these "normal" veins or
anything whatsoever (i.e. lotions, etc) that can remedy this problem? boosted302: Are there any vitamins I can take to help
promote my vein health? I am concerned about varicose veins in the future
because it runs in my family...thanks. Henry: Can TriVexÔ heal leg ulcers? Veins1: There are a few questions regarding how best to
evaluate leg stockings? Shelly: What exactly are reticular veins, and what causes
them to become more noticeable? Brian Johnson: What can I do to increase circulation in my
hands? I typically work 8 hrs in front of a keyboard per day and when the day
is over, my wrists hurt. iepnihs2 : Hi. When I work out, veins bulge on my forehead.
They aren't there when I don't work out. I'm thinking about a hair replacement
procedure where they put little plugs in your head. What if they hit a vein?? Veins1: Someone asked, what are incompetent veins? Veins1: Dr. Spitz, we are getting close to wrapping up. Are
there some areas of vascular health you want to address before we close? Dr. Spitz: Just to reiterate...varicose
veins are a medical problem and should be diagnosed by a vein specialist. There
are a lot of people who just learn how to do things at weekend courses and I
would avoid them…board certified general and vascular surgeons are well trained
to treat these patients. Veins1: Thank you Dr. Spitz for your insightful responses
tonight. And thank you audience for your participation in the Veins1 moderated
chat. Remember, this was the second of
four moderated chats on Veins1 in October.
Each will be held at 9:00 pm eastern standard time. The next chat will be 10/15 at 9:00 pm
eastern standard time.
Veins1 Discussion with Dr. Gregory Spitz
October 8, 2002
Veins1: Today's guest is Gregory A. Spitz, M.D., F.A.C.S.. Dr. Spitz is a
leading general surgeon, and the inventor of the surgical technique for
varicose vein removal used with the TriVexÔ System. As a member of the Senior Attending and
Teaching Staff at Rush-Copley Medical Center in Aurora, IL, Dr. Spitz
specializes in minimally invasive vein surgery, advanced laparoscopy and
minimally invasive hernia repair.
Veins1: Dr. Spitz is a member of the American Medical Association and a
Fellow of the American College of Surgeons. He is also a member of the Illinois
State Medical Society, Kane County Medical Society (Secretary of Treasury,
President-Elect, Board of Directors), Fox Valley Medicine (Board of Directors),
the Warren Cole Surgical Society and the American College of Phlebology (member
and speaker).
Veins1: He is a graduate of the University of Illinois, College of Medicine,
Chicago, IL. His internship and residency were performed at the University of
Illinois, Metropolitan Group Hospitals, Chicago, IL.
Veins1: We welcome your questions!
kas517: Dr. Spitz, can varicose veins of the foot be removed?
Dr. Spitz: Varicose veins on the top of the foot as well as the rest of the
foot are from an incompetent (leaky) valve above that...these can both be
treated as an outpatient. Proper diagnosis with duplex ultrasound will
delineate the problem.
kas517: Are there any age constraints on varicose vein procedures? I'm 17
years old and am starting to notice varicose veins. Am I too young to have the
procedure?
Dr. Spitz: The youngest TriVexÔ patient to date is 15 years old done last summer
Dr. Spitz: Again, diagnosis with ultrasound will help...but any vein that
can be visualized can be removed...some of these are normal with certain
people. Smaller non-bulging veins can be treated with sclerotherapy
(injections).
sportgirl13: Does weight training really cause your veins to bulge?
Can that be a cause of or aggravate varicose veins?
Dr. Spitz: Weight training will cause increased pressure on the veins...if
you have a predisposition (heredity) for the problem it may aggravate it.
However, staying fit is always a good choice.
Dr. Spitz: Yes, but a weakly proven connection...hormones and changes in
hormone levels are a definite risk factor.
Dr. Spitz: Strictly speaking, doppler is just listening to the veins
with a special device. It is often confused with ultrasound which will view the
veins and vein valves.
Dr. Spitz: Walking while working and compression hose will help;
over-the-counter should do for that.
John Rafael Grant: Dr. Spitz, is the TriVexÔ procedure
applicable to anorectal varicose veins?
Dr. Spitz: No, those would technically be hemorrhoids.
Dr. Spitz: It depends on which is more symptomatic...if the veins are
causing significant problems they should be done first. After hip surgery deep
vein clots are a problem...so having the varicose veins taken care of first may
be the right choice.
Dr. Spitz: Just staying fit in general, ie exercise and avoid being
overweight
Dr. Spitz: It may be Raynaud’s. Testing can be done by a vascular
surgeon. Usually Raynaud’s causes blue discoloration also.
Dr. Spitz: If you have varicose veins, using extremes of hot water for
long periods can aggravate the problem.
Dr. Spitz: A pulsing bulge at the wrist may involve the arteries of
the wrist...there are no varicose veins of the wrist.
Dr. Spitz: Heart problems are more related to peripheral vascular
disease of the arteries. They usually will correlate in some way...not with the
veins.
Dr. Spitz: That is related to liver disease from drinking; the liver
disease usually only comes with heavy drinking
Dr. Spitz: Varicose veins have stagnant blood in them. They are a true
medical problem and can lead to clots. Avoid being overweight and stay in
general good health otherwise. Removal of the source (bad valve) and the veins
is the best choice.
Dr. Spitz: Keeping the calf muscle moving by flexing and extending the
legs during standing helps the circulation.
Dr. Spitz: Leaving can lead to phlebitis, clots or ulcers in the
leg...find a doctor on Veins1.com. A valve procedure and TriVexÔ are a
great solution after diagnosis with an ultrasound. Outpatients are a 40 minute
procedure in most cases.
Dr. Spitz: Ulcers are the end point of vein disease and need good
diagnosis and treatment. This may involve a valve procedure, TriVexÔ and
possibly a procedure that goes under the muscle SEPS to stop the leaky valve
from causing back pressure.
Dr. Spitz: Without examining her, I couldn't guess about her
prognosis...they could be checking veins or arteries with a Doppler.
Dr. Spitz: Spider veins can be treated with laser or injections or
both in the office (diabetics included)
Dr. Spitz: Injections = Sclerotherapy...it is not recommended for
varicose veins, only spider veins. It clots the veins and larger veins attached
to leaky valves will open up again.
Dr. Spitz: No that is just an inherited trait.
Dr. Spitz: Just like standing for long periods, it can aggravate
stagnant blood in the veins.
Dr. Spitz: We see our patients in 2 days to remove dressings and our
patients receive therapeutic ultrasound treatments to make the recovery even
easier. Most patients get back to work in 3-4 days and full impact exercise in
10 days. Walking is encouraged during the entire recovery.
Dr. Spitz: Varicose veins themselves can cause discoloration. We use
ultrasound treatments and special ointments to treat these areas.
Dr. Spitz: None that I know of...this is likely the nature of your
skin type.
Dr. Spitz: No specific vitamins, but general good health with exercise
and avoiding obesity. Having a good diet should deliver all the vitamins you
need for most people.
Dr. Spitz: Leg ulcers are the end stage of vein ulcers. If it is a venous ulcer, TriVexÔ can
remove the veins under it causing the problem. This is combined with a valve
procedure as an outpatient.
Dr. Spitz: If this is an ulcer from artery disease, other treatment is
needed. We prescribe different stockings for patients depending on their
problems. Quality of the make is like anything else...we have brands available
to us that are time proven.
Dr. Spitz: Reticular veins are bigger than spider veins but smaller
than varicose veins. They are 2-3 mm and can bulge a little. They can be
attached to a leaky valve causing pressure to make them bulge.
Dr. Spitz: That may not be circulation, but carpal tunnel syndrome is
possible...this involves nerves being impinged.
Dr. Spitz: Hitting a bulging vein anywhere can cause bleeding,
especially the head. I know that reputable hair replacement surgeons take this
into account and avoid them.
Dr. Spitz: Incompetent means instead of driving the vein blood back up
toward the lungs and heart like it is supposed to, the vein blood goes down.
Small valves in the veins themselves lose their elasticity and don't stop the
blood from pooling anymore...this leads to ulcer (open wound) and clotting.